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Pretty Pretty Princesses.

I am looking for movies, preferably princessy movies, that will appeal to a very smart three year old and that do not have a negative gender message. Brad's niece, Mo, and I have watched Enchanted about a squillion times, and while we both love it, I imagine she's going to get bored with it before too terribly long. I'd like to have something else lined up for her when that happens.

So here's the gender thing.

Mo recently came home from daycare and announced to her Mema that princes must save princesses because only boys can save girls. Girls cannot save boys. It's an idea she picked up from a couple of the slightly older girls at daycare, and not an idea Mo's parents are at all okay with. And it's definitely not an idea that I want to have any part in encouraging. Enchanted is great because at the end of the movie, Giselle saves Robert (I think?) from the icky icky dragonbeast. It shows people helping each other, taking care of each other, and supporting each other.

I want to have more movies like that to show Mo when she's here. So, my little FriendBots, please make suggestions. Tell me which movies you think would work well for a smart little girl who loves princesses but is not Baby to be put in a corner.

Also, I just lost the game.



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Nov. 19th, 2009 04:34 pm (UTC)
Penelope might be a little mature for her, but it's an adorable movie where the "princess" saves herself :) It's about a girl cursed with a pig's nose, and the only way to remove the curse is to be "loved by one of her own kind".
Nov. 20th, 2009 08:09 pm (UTC)
Oh, that sounds like fun. I'll have to find that and watch it before I show it to her, but having to pre-watch doesn't sound like a chore. :)
Nov. 19th, 2009 04:35 pm (UTC)
Although Disney does a horrible job with some princess-type movies, I rather liked 'Mulan' for such a strong female figure. I also found 'Beauty and the Beast' to not be all that bad, because I found Belle to be a compelling character due to her being a rather intelligent female figure that didn't just go for the stupid, buff guy and who enjoyed reading more than anything else. Although people might take issue with cultural issues within 'Pocahontas', I found her to be a strong female figure as well, although a good deal of the movie can be rather cheesy (we are talking Disney here).

I also find 'Shrek' to not follow the same-old-same-old princess/knight roles as well.
Nov. 19th, 2009 06:18 pm (UTC)
Seconded on "Mulan" as far as Disney princesses. Also in the Disney vein, "Tinkerbell" surprisingly isn't that bad. (There's a new one that just came out that I haven't seen; I'm talking about one that's just called "Tinker Bell.") It's guilty of a lot of the same oversimplification as any Disney movie, but there's no sign of anyone rescuing Tink, and not even the slightest glimmer of a romantic interest.
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Nov. 19th, 2009 04:39 pm (UTC)
Also..if she's not easily scared by different creatures...Hayao Miyazaki's movies are wonderful.

For young children, I'd suggest 'My Neighbor Totoro' and 'Ponyo'.
Nov. 20th, 2009 08:13 pm (UTC)
Sweet! You are full of the wonderful ideas, AmelieFishie. :)
Nov. 19th, 2009 04:43 pm (UTC)
I don't have a movie suggestion, but The Paperbag Princess is a book that does the exact same job, and does it very directly and bluntly. Highly recommend it for princessly girl reading.
Nov. 20th, 2009 08:14 pm (UTC)
Oh, excellent! That'll go on my Christmas list for her. I love giving books as gifts, and it sounds exactly right.
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Nov. 19th, 2009 04:54 pm (UTC)
I went to track comments, and the track comments page gives me the option to track by tags.  Your first tag?  "14-year-old-hookercon".  *snorts*

regyt mentioned to me that you might appreciate/get ideas from this post.
Nov. 20th, 2009 08:15 pm (UTC)

That was my post about going to an amusement park where every young teen girl I saw seemed to be dressed for a trollop-themed costume contest.

That post is fantastic. I did get a lot of great ideas from it and I've bookmarked it to go back to later, too.
Nov. 19th, 2009 04:59 pm (UTC)
Also there have not been Linus/Eddie pictures in quite some time.
Nov. 20th, 2009 08:17 pm (UTC)
You show me pics of Sprout and Calvwell and I'll show you pics of Linus and Eddie. Right now, they're both curled up on my bed along with Spooky and Shiz. I am dying of teh cute.
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Nov. 19th, 2009 05:07 pm (UTC)
Also..*laughs*..as a book for her..'Blueberry Girl' by Neil Gaiman..it is a WONDERFUL, GORGEOUS book for girls.
Nov. 20th, 2009 08:17 pm (UTC)
She has that one! She asked me to read it to her for her bedtime story the last time I was at her house, and I loved it, too. :)
Nov. 19th, 2009 05:43 pm (UTC)
Not sure it's quite for a three year old, but I have to mention Ever After, a retelling of the Cinderella story.  Not only does the girl save the prince, but the prince goes a long way toward winning her heart by building her a library.  Plus Leonardo da Vinci is the 'fairy godmother'.
Nov. 20th, 2009 01:45 pm (UTC)
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Nov. 19th, 2009 06:03 pm (UTC)
I agree with intenselaura about Ever After - it's a fantastic movie, but might be just a squeak too old for a 3-year old. floatyfish has the same ideas I have; Beauty and the Beast, because of her strong intelligent role and she does kind of save the prince at the end. Mulan shows another strong female figure who doesn't need to be saved. And Shrek because of how fun it is.
Nov. 20th, 2009 08:22 pm (UTC)
Excellent. I thought they were great ideas, and I'm glad to have them seconded. :)

Also, and completely unrelated, I've been looking at gorgeous gorgeous scarf patterns this week, and I think I've chosen the yarn for the one I'm making for you. I'm super excited about it. :)
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Nov. 19th, 2009 06:58 pm (UTC)
How about Matilda? Might be a little too much for a 3 y/o, but is a great one for later. Roald Dahl was great.
Nov. 20th, 2009 08:25 pm (UTC)
Sweet! Matilda is an awesome book. I've not seen the movie but would love to, so pre-watching will make me happy even if it is a bit much for Mo.

Have you read Dahl's nursery rhyme books? They are hilarious.

Also, I have not forgotten your movies. I've just been beaten with the poverty stick, but I hope to send them to you soon, along with some small Portland presents that I've had my eye on for you. :)
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Nov. 20th, 2009 03:17 am (UTC)
Movies I'm not sure about, but she'd probaby love the Gail Carson Levine books for bedtime stories. They are a lot of fun and take some nice twists with classic fairy tales - like Sleeping Beauty was actually very smart and while she was sleeping, people starting saying "Princess Sonara knows" as a stock answer for all those insolvables. The boy gets fed up and decides he's going to find her and get some answers. When he gets there she's covered in dust and has something that might be drool or might be bird doo-doo on the corner of her mouth and he decides there is no WAY he is kissing that!
Nov. 20th, 2009 08:29 pm (UTC)
Oh, that sounds wonderful! I'm adding them to my list. This absolutely rocks because I get to read these books and watch these movies with her, and I so love stuff like this.
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